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In March, I was asked to discuss the Topic Skilled labor shortage Best of HR – Berufebilder.de® interviewed by the ARD. The result will now be broadcast on the ARD. Title of the program: "The story in the first: The labor market report - The fairy tale of Skills shortage".



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How everything began

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The discussion had to Best of HR – Berufebilder.de® 2009 started harmlessly with a few reader comments, but then expanded to a veritable discussion and finally culminated in the establishment of a counter-association to the Association of German engineers. Because, as it says in the description of the program:

Hardly any lobbying association has worked so hard to get foreign skilled workers into the country, like the Verein Deutscher Ingenieure (VDI). It is engineers themselves who accuse the club of letting themselves go Company instrumentalize and express the minimum salary. Because the engineering association regularly comes up with horror figures, the engineering profession has been declared a first class shortage and now allows companies to hiring highly skilled foreign skilled workers at a minimum wage of 32.500 Euros a year. Previously, this limit was 66.000 Euro. Skilled workers from Spain, Greece, Romania and Bulgaria are to pour onto the German labor market with Blue Card and European free movement. Germany is proud to support crisis states by taking the unemployed.

Reader on the palm

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Exactly this behavior has been upsetting our readers for years. 2014 is now also a much-noticed book by Martin Gaedt appeared. Under the title "Myth Skilled Worker Shortage", he accuses the companies of lacking activity with regard to the training and further education of junior staff.

O-tone of the book: Fachkräfftemangel is often made home and it must be differentiated much more. In issue 12 / 2014 I wrote on the topic also the article From because of lack.

To the broadcast

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I'm curious what happens during and after the program. I have not even seen the finished result, but my interview already here concludes.

In any case, all interested are invited to discuss the topic. Sending dates are:

  • Mo, 21.07.14 | 22: 45 Clock | The first
  • Di, 22.07.14 | 04: 45 Clock | The first

Have fun!

Update

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Well 10 days ago, that's on 21. The reportage "The fairy tale of a shortage of skilled workers" aired on the Best of HR – Berufebilder.de®.de was instrumental in helping with research, networking with potential interviewees and, ultimately, contributing to their own words.

Since then, there have been a number of exciting resonances.

At last people with the same opinion!

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What really touched me personally: Immediately after the broadcast, numerous engineers spoke up, thanking us for our work, because they realized through the show that they are not alone with their problem of not finding a job. Regina wrote to me:

Hello Mrs. Janson, on Monday my husband and I have you in the Labor Reportation - The fairy tale of skilled laborers - seen and heard. We are so good at hearing people who share the same opinion as us.

Facts that make you angry

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Here one notices how frustrating and mentally distressing it is for many people to hear over and over again the complaints of the employers about the alleged shortage of skilled workers, to belong to the corresponding target group - and yet to find no job.

Other listeners were affected. Thus farmer Martin Salwiczek writes: "The film was apt, makes angry." (https://twitter.com/MSalwiczek/status/491344506173030400)

Discussion is launching a new blog project

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What was great was that there were constructive tips to solve the problem. So Clara shared her experiences with hundreds of applications as an engineer and her consequence: Emigration!

In the end, we have simply left the country and have been living abroad for more than 5 years, some of us outside Europe, are all in wages and bread and no longer worry about the German system. We do not care anymore. Our children are multi-lingual and are currently studying for their master's degrees (also engineering sciences ARD reportage The fairy tale of the shortage of skilled workers: With Best of HR – Berufebilder.de® :-) ).

Since the topic is met with great interest by other readers, Clara has now decided to implement something that she has obviously been carrying around for some time: in her own blog project, she will now report on emigrating as an engineer. We can be curious.

Critical voices

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In addition, there was also criticism of the design of the program - in the form of a well-founded review by Gerhard Kenk, author of the Crosswater Job Guide, which compared the structure of the reportage with a Telenovela. For his taste, the show was a bit too much feuilleton and little analysis.

He was not quite wrong; for me, too, it would have been a little less. Here, of course, the fact that facts should be presented to the viewer as a light diet and in memorable pictures is of course the most important factor.

The most important facts at a glance

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But I was enthusiastic about the fact that the show succeeded in presenting all important and highly different aspects of the subject in such a short time.

I'm just not convinced that even people who have no idea about the topic have understood everything. Since Gerhard Kenk is due to the fact that he has summarized the most important facts in his contribution. For example:

  • Karl Brenke (DIW) defines the skilled labor force as follows: On 1 place 3 applicants come - this is not a clear deficiency situation.
  • Martin Gaedt (author of "Myth Skilled Shortage"): Headlines are easily picked up by the media.
  • IW multiplies the vacancies times 7 - that is lying with numbers.
  • The labor gap is 6.5 million, which alone is not yet a basis for a professional deficit.
  • Cheap wages for skilled workers: The annual salary was reduced from 66.000 via 47.000 to 32.000 Euro.
  • And much more - to do so simply read the post.

Does drawer deficiency work like fruit yoghurt?

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Respect specialist Bettina Schöblitz gives a slightly different overview: she questions the various facts of lying and in a witty way by counteracting them with everyday examples.

The example of the disappointed employer, who only receives six applications, of which he could immediately stop four, but is nevertheless disappointed. Is it a real drawback if I can only choose between six types of strawberry yoghurt in the supermarket and none of them meets my requirement for 183 ml content and 47% fruit content?


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  1. Udo Dinsing

    Hi Guys !

    It is finished.

    http://www.amazon.de/Fachkr%C3%A4ftemangel-Deutschland-L%C3%BCgenm%C3%A4rchen-Politik-Wirtschaft/dp/3710316014/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426407229&sr=8-2&keywords=udo+dinsing

    • Simone Janson

      Congratulation!

  2. M. Reich

    I, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) for scientific equipment construction Spec. Constructor with experience in foreign and leadership and mastering 10 programming languages, work as a fork-lift driver and MfA (girl for everything) on ​​a half-day basis and refer to H4. Denied by all leading companies (already minimized salary requirement). Thanks VDI, AA and government.

    • BD

      - Degree of study (M.Sc.) 02 / 2014 with international experience + grade 1,7
      - 60 Applications medium to AG
      - 9 interviews in SMEs and AG
      - no concrete job offer

      NEXT STEP: 1 Year of unemployment + absolute despair

      What should we do?

      • Simone Janson

        Hallo,
        maybe both of you can also join an application coaching program
        Svenja Hofert?

        • Svenja B.

          Good evening everyone!

          Mrs Janson, I have to contradict you. During my application phase, I also talked to numerous people who told me which mistakes my application contains. I always changed those. Did it do something? No. It is not due to the relevant application documents or to the applicant, which is always the simplest for the companies and the employment agency. First of all, companies should question themselves. I have the experience that I as a job starter get no chance. In addition, companies' demands on applicants are so high that they can not be met. But as I read, even graduates who fulfill much more requirements than me, even no job. I really wonder what companies want for applicants? Someone who has 5 years of professional experience, completed dozens of internships, has umpteen additional skills / additional qualifications and speaks 10 languages ​​or how? So I've been searching for 2 years now and I'm a natural scientist (physicist). I bothered writing to some politicians, but they do not care about me. Instead of thinking about it, you immediately knock me off with your negative answers. I also read a comment below from a girl who feels "left alone". So what good is it to get foreign skilled workers, who receive much less salary than the graduates in Germany would get. This does not solve the problem of the many academic unemployed, but rather exacerbates it. In addition, I have recently seen a report on television in which was spoken by academics who have left Germany because they had no chance here. I can not imagine that the federal government wants to lose the well-educated academics. But if things do not change slowly in Germany. then it will result. Then not only professionals in the non-academic field are missing, but also those in the academic field. It's also not a solution if you become self-employed, as you have advised other people here. Maybe all the academics who complain about the companies and employment agencies, which I count myself, should do together and do something about this condition?

          • Simone Janson

            Hello Svenja, provocatively asked: Perhaps you have in your application simply by too many people pure talk instead of pursuing a clear concept? Did you read the linked article? It's not about questioning yourself, it's about getting a clear stance, despite setbacks, wherever you want to go. It may well be that companies and politicians are wrong, but you can only change something, if you, as you have correctly recognized, join forces with others to lobbying or even go into politics - there were approaches in the blog with us VDI are already, they are then back in the sand. Otherwise I do not find emigration a bad idea if self-employment is not the answer. I wish you success!

          • Heiko

            Hello, Mrs. Janson, can you really imagine what it's like to be looking for a job for so long? Just time to emigrate is certainly not so easy and also no guarantee of improvement. And then? If it does not work, the financial resources may be used up and you are sitting in a foreign country and just as unemployed.
            I think it's normal that you ask yourself over time. So it is better to keep a clear attitude but to make the same mistakes again and again?
            In addition, I find that provocative questions on your part are out of place here. They have good talk and give "advice". How the victims themselves do not know.

          • Simone Janson

            Hello Heiko, I had at the beginning of my self-employment immediately after the study for a three-year without any orders and was very desperate. At that time, it was better than I could manage to do the thing less hard. They say it takes as a self-employed 3 years until it runs a lot and 5 until one established itself, which was with me so. As I have noticed over and over again in this time, wail and frustration, and the attitude that followed, did not go any further. On the contrary, it made it unattractive for potential clients. In this respect, I find your idea with the clear head good.
            What I regret a little bit in retrospect is too long to be dependent on others, instead of realizing my own ideas. For example, I thought for too long, when I make my own website, no one will read, but it was for me the most successful method I have tried.

            I'm not saying, start blogging, it's not that easy, but find out what you can change yourself - even if you are politically involved.

        • Heiko

          Good evening Mrs. Janson!

          In 2 1 / 2 years, my good friend Svenja B. has now written and wrote 286 applications on posts qualified for her specialist position and 123 applications on dissertations. The 12 presentations were held at qualified positions and 9 discussions for a dissertation.
          Svenja wrote about 114 letters / emails to associations or politicians, but no one could or wanted to help her. I can well understand that the comments here are not isolated. What else besides a good degree you can ask for from an applicant? Experience, of course, but you do not get paid and how do you want to work on this if you just do not get a chance? Because many companies are too cumbersome to deal with new entrants, perhaps because they need a longer, more intensive training period, as the less expensive specialist from abroad ...
          I do not have a conclusive explanation for this, but why do you study at all?

          • Heiko

            There is no help for coaching or self-employment, which in many cases (disciplines) is not that easy at all.

          • Simone Janson

            Hello Heiko, in front of all medium-sized companies are afraid to introduce young people complex and expensive, or train employees and then lose them to the competition. In addition, it is understandable to look for companies for the best solution.
            If independence is not a solution, how is it with emigration? There were some positive reports in the blog.

          • Mark

            Hello Simone

            The argument to lose expensive employees. is absolutely incomprehensible. "If I no longer train, I can not assume that the other trains for me and sends over the best and keeps the worst!" Quote from Wolfgang Grupp. I think that one can easily transfer to the training of academics. If all entrepreneurs are always waiting to get ready-to-use engineers, that's the downfall of Germany. We need real entrepreneurs in our country again, and no exploiters.

          • Simone Janson

            Hi Mark,
            what you say is, of course, quite logical and correct in the long term - but many companies are not acting so far-sighted, but look only at the current balance sheets. And often there is also fear.

          • Svenja B.

            Unfortunately, due to financial reasons, I no longer have the opportunity to wait for the entrepreneurs to offer jobseekers a chance once again, but instead have sought alternatives that may help me to enter the world of work. I have often wondered why I studied at all. There is a constant talk on TV about the alleged skills shortage, although I have other information from my university. It is so motivated and euphoric from the university after completing the degree program, to find that companies would like to hire the professionals with the longest work experience. But it can not be that only these have a chance. In my opinion (unfortunately I can not prove that - but there are enough signs) it is easier for men to start working life than women! Once I had a very negative job interview, in which I was patterned from top to bottom and I noticed from the eyes of men that they would rather see me in other areas than in optics (physics). I felt a little discriminated against at the moment ....

          • Simone Janson

            Hello Svenja,
            Since I have written a lot on the subject in the course of time, I have made of my answer a two-part blog post with links further (part 2 tomorrow).
            I would be interested in what the alternatives they were looking for. An acquaintance of mine, for example, studied archeology together with me before 20 years, then worked as an SAP consultant for 10 years and has now opened a candy store. I would have found that before 10 years still gruesome, because it has nothing to do with the study, today I find the super because it is something own on the legs. However, the unconditional sticking to the academic training seems to me such a problem, which is drilled at the university. That's why I'm in my blog post.

  3. Udo Dinsing

    Hi Guys !
    Come again with new surprises. The book I mentioned is almost finished and I am now busy with the figures of the corporations in the fast run.

    So, we currently have 11.900 registered stock exchanges oriented in Germany.
    If we assume here that each corporation "only" 100 trainees per year, then we would be at annual 1.190.000 trainees. But that would mean that the same number per year has passed the final exam. So also per year 1.190.000 new skilled workers who are available to the labor market. Why does it have to be that way?
    Some are completing the final exam and are out of the training relationship. The 3. Training year slide into the 4. The 2. in the 3. The 1. in the 2. Yes and then the new ones that are in the 1. come. Otherwise there would be no place any longer. And you need yes, if new apprentices should be adjusted.
    So as I said, in case if each stock "only" 100 trainees would be the expected number.

    I have looked at the new training conditions of various corporations (approx. 25 pcs). What do you expect to hear now? In the case of the AG with the fewest new trainees, we still speak of 250 newly concluded trainee apprenticeships. In the case of the AG with the highest contracts, we conclude new contracts concluded by 950. And so it goes on and on.
    This is obviously a point in this the media does not research, otherwise they would not always publish such a moron, as regards the alleged professional defenses.
    Greeting to you all!

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Mr. Dinsing,
      Thanks for the update. However, it is unquestionable for me that the corporations, which are appropriately known, can cover their specialist requirements. Many want to work at Mercedes. But what about the small, unknown middle class in the province? Are there any numbers? I would like to make a contact.
      I South Tyrol, for example, even receive grants from companies if they hire qualified employees.

  4. Udo Dinsing

    Hello Mrs. Janson!
    So, here I am again. Did you get the sample and what do you say?
    Well, after the company Siemens 11600 has made jobs flat (ran big through the media) and the energy company RWE 5000 has broken down, we will now probably have a professional strength again.
    I wonder seriously, who cares here actually whom?
    In this sense,
    with frndl. greeting

    U. Dinsing

    PS. After the appearance of the book, they receive a free copy of mine. PROMISED !

  5. Florian Schmitz

    I just saw the report on Phoenix and am glad my suspicions have been confirmed.

    I am an industrial engineer in the area of ​​production & logistics, have some expensive additional training and several years of professional experience and can not find any position for about 11 months. My statistic is about 80 applications, 12 presentation talks and 1 pledge, which is however suspended, because the works council refuses the hiring because of layoffs in another business area.

    Well, head up and through!

    • Dismissed engineer

      I am 48 years, married, 2 children, studying with good degree, 21 years of professional experience and will soon have to apply for H4. My skills are being sought in the market, but not my age! I worked in a responsible position as lead engineer embedded software engineering and earned 92.000 gross. Unfortunately, our company has been relocated thanks to the promotion of construction east to save the east taxes and to be able to settle funds for unemployed in production. Here, one has gradually closed down departments, which resulted in a massive staff reduction. A new job was not even offered to you, on the grounds, you find something, in the qualification as an engineer.

      I am familiar with the most modern microprocessors, MATLAB, Simulink, Automation and Process Engineering, I have knowledge with Compier-Configurations, TCL and master C ++ and APIs, Keil, Vector, vxWorks from the FF. Real-time programming, creating the specifications, supplier management, all of which I command perfectly and rutiniert. And all this is searched hanging, but I get no JOB !!!! The reason is that I do not fit into the team. Most departments are now populated with Jungvolk around the 30, and one searches for someone up to a maximum of 35. Also, my knowledge is far too wide, you look for the blinder programmer for the back room. And then of course my salary is much too high. I do not trust myself, however, that I can and will work for less, but implies that I am able to make myself, but then immediately look for something else - so I can not do unfortunately. Even providers of workers' surrender are thus arguing.

      I have applied for example at Continentale, Bosch, Posche Engineering, Daimler Benz, MB-Tech, Siemens Transportation, Siemens Automation, Linde, Philips, Agilent, Hameg, Rohde & Schwarz, BMW Group. In the end I searched nationwide - without success. They all had several such positions for software developers, team leaders in software development, software QMs and planners, and they confirmed that I had the required knowledge twice and triple, but it was already too much! The small companies had always the problem that they thought that I only see them as an emergency nail, with my qualification and I immediately turn away again if I find something better.

      Germany has a luxury problem! Too many, too well-trained engineers. The shortage is that the criteria are so narrow that only very few fit and even with those you can still find a hair. This is how many people are left behind! Instead, foreigners are picked up, provided with expensive language courses by the employment office, they are reimbursed for travel expenses and apartments, so that they can get cheap working placements to fill the many vacancies among the temporary employers who are growing and becoming fashionable. Our government creates a climate of under-migration of labor power and counteracts the mechanism of supply and demand at the expense of workers who are then allowed to stamp. The alternative is then only abroad, that of this dirt, which runs here, still knows nothing and where German engineers are still appreciated.

      Germany is creating its engineers! At the same time, the timed workers complain about what is going on and determine the general opinion. 90% of jobs are fakes and by service providers.

      • Simone Janson

        Thanks for the description. How would you step into the independence of your abilities?

        • dismissed

          In response to Ms Janson's proposal to contribute the skills in the form of self-employment:

          It's not that easy. The way I've worked requires a close knit with similarly gifted and experienced developers in the team. You play on each other and take on the tasks that result, which are not always the same. This results in the problem that I have to fit into the local team. Unfortunately, people> 35 no longer trust any adaptability. Also in general AG tend to occupy a team in old age homogeneous. And if so, then something is not in self-employment, but in pseudo self-employment as a "freelancer" who works here and there and sometimes fills in the gaps in the company. The problem that arises then is that you always have to interpose a company that serves as a screen to ward off the pension insurance. In practice, such vacancies are concealed temporary employment agencies that just do not call themselves temporary work, but are practical. You are far away from permanent employment.

          The other branch, to work as a self-employed, is also denied, because I can only contribute part of the ability to work. MAn competes qusi with expertise against the established competition and can work the first years on dumping prices. Independence from the state is not practicable even for engineers.

          The idea is probably to sell the know-how profitably to the competition and then move abroad, where German engineers are still appreciated. There are a number of companies that produce the same and need know-how carriers.

          The whole story shows, however, one thing: I recognize in the meantime features that I have criticized earlier in others: selfishness, egocentrism, angerism of community thinking. I have, in order to have enough time, have thrown together all the honorable offices, put on social and social activities, and invested only in my own good. And patriotism has long since died with me.

          • Simone Janson

            Hello dismissed,
            That sounds a bit frustrated, if understandable. Incidentally, I also view charitable activities as egotistical - to quote Reinhold Messner, whom I interviewed last summer: Who is not selfish? In any case, such activities help to establish good contacts that will help you once again.
            Apart from that, you describe the crux in the changing world of work very closely: past tight networks are loosening, maximum flexibility is expected by employees. And the lifelong employment has been spent. On the other hand, companies are not at all clear that the flexible worker will then sell his knowledge to the next, if the company is not doing something good.
            Why do not you build up your own team with (former or new) colleagues?

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Mr. Schmitz,
      Thanks for the comment, I find a great attitude, speaks for a lot of healthy optimism after 11 months search. Perhaps also to you once again the reference to the application coaching with Mrs. Hofert, maybe that helps.
      Regards

  6. young Woman engineer

    Hi all,

    I stumbled over this page because of a very big problem.

    I offer:
    Graduated in engineering at a prestigious university, earned a professional experience in two semi-annual internships in the industry, completed various international semesters to deepen the language skills (5 languages) and acquire soft skills, and have been committed to volunteering for many years. Extremely flexible.

    I'm looking for:
    A job. - And do not find one.

    In 50 applications, I was invited to 3 introductory talks, "Travel expenses are unfortunately not accepted".
    Meanwhile, my salary wishes are almost based on the Hartz IV ruleset. So I had not really imagined my prospects as a graduate, especially as in my career development phase in the upper grades it was always talked about "striving for engineers" or "in short supply of women in MINT subjects".

    What attracted me to the job search, and what is in turn related to the numbers of the places advertised in the statistics by the factor 7 is that there are many job advertisements even though the actual jobs do not exist at all. Keyword engineering service provider. A company that assigns a part of your positions to external service providers has only to award this one job. For this activity, five engineering service providers have, in each case, announced the position (to name a number that I have encountered in my job search). Accordingly, there are five calls for tenders. There is no need to wonder about the numerous cancellations, if nowadays only fictional places are written out! If I am still thinking that the five job advertisements are still given the factor, there are suddenly in the statistics 35 vacancies !?

    The background is clear: wage dumping, longer working hours (45h-week), and legally prescribed minimum leave. 32.000 € Yearly salary, whether for domestic or foreigners, what more can you say?
    I see the big problem in the fact that in politics only the successes during the term is concentrated. The problem of the next legislative period is the result of catastrophic conditions. They can then consider how the entire 32.000 € engineers should pay the social assistance of their unemployed guild brothers.

    • Simone Janson

      Love young engineer,
      thank you for your contribution, which fits well with many other comments. Perhaps that is something to be not the only one.
      Please do not let yourself be so frustrated that you are content with value and salary expectations on Hartz IV level - that bring experience, nothing.
      Honestly, you should work out what differentiates you from other applicants, what you could do better - including coaching. Although I do not believe that this is a panacea (not always one is guilty, as some would like to persuade) I found the coaching described here interesting, with which Svenja Hofert has helped one of your colleagues to a job. Maybe that will help you a little bit further.

      • Young Ing

        Hello young female,

        I am in the same situation, maybe not so well educated, but my profile is also impressive.

        My question: There must be an action through us professional career for public interest !?

        gruß
        Young Ing

        • Simone Janson

          Hello YoungIng,
          Making public is fine - but what exactly do you want to achieve with it? Public pressure does not create more jobs.

          • Young Ing

            Hello Mrs. Janson,

            since you are right, help does not! I am honestly only to move the VDI times to a reflection and change (I give our company in Germany not even a complicity)! In addition, not everyone would say "engineer unemployed - does not go at all!"

          • Simone Janson

            I did not want to demotivate you, I just wanted to know what the action was about. Public production is not so easy and takes time or costs accordingly, so the action should be targeted.
            If someone says "As an engineer unemployed, how is that" you can refer to this blog.
            In addition, since yesterday, the VDI and / or its engineer-Nachrchten follows, on my Facebook page. So I assume that the VDI has already noticed.
            But I am quite open also for suggestions, the group "We are VDI" has indeed done something.

  7. Young Ing

    Counter-attack of the VDI's!

    http://www.faz.net/aktuell/beruf-chance/arbeitswelt/ingenieursbedarf-13148678.html

    The VDI presents as a sad policy against the ARD reportage a survey, which should clarify all the engineering deficiency! If the most important arguments of the credibility are credible and the media simply print it out!

    1. It is not said in which job's the engineers, whether fachfremd or engineer service provider, usually to worse conditions than employed persons! JOB IS JOB

    2. Interviewing the leasing members: Many engineers who are unemployed, work-seeking or in an industry are or may not be a member of staff, especially since the contributions are not exactly favorable. In addition, if you have not consulted the student leases because you are still students, but are actually just out of the study, job-seeking or unemployed and just do not tell the VDI to be modest! UPPPPS, what is it!

    3. The engineers who can not find a job, but should just change the location, then we get the 16 percent without a job safely under! Sure it's just because! These 16% are probably the representative mass!

    It's milking to the mouse! The fact that a larger group on the other hand is very unlikely, because who uses lateral thinkers even in times without engineer shortage?

    Sad but true, turn back abroad and Germany, although it is a great country, but no more for engineers! The question for career starters: How does it look in ten years? Service providers based abroad take over the work ?! Engineering service providers are also reinventing outsourcing? The pressure and struggle on the labor market is increasing even more ?! Alternative: Leaving the industry before the actual entry?

    MFG

    YOUNG ING

    • Simone Janson

      Thanks for the hint. Already crass. Going abroad seems to be a better choice for engineers.

    • Udo Dinsing

      At the moment, I am working on a publication that contains exactly this topic. The respective contracts between the publishing house and me have been signed so far by both parties.
      Now to the point. If you only keep in mind the following facts, it becomes obvious that we can not have a shortage of skilled workers in Germany at all!

      We currently have about 3 million people receiving the "ALG I". In addition, there are about 4 Mio working people living with the "ALG II". Together, 7 makes millions of people without a job.
      Now assuming that only 20% have first class education and work experience, then we are already at 1,4 million people. And what if it's not 20 but 40%? Skilled labor shortage? Can not be quite right. I close rather because of the ÖÄüßerung of a Business Administration Prof. at the time said, "Skilled shortage no but Fachlohnmagel, yes!" And just there is the problem. And if the incompetent policy of achieving what they have achieved with their legislation on minimum wages in the 8,50 Euro area, then you can only laugh about so much nonsense. But that politicians do not have a rational way of thinking and also have no connection to reality, the sparrows whistle for decades from the roofs. Then there are the "nice" would-be entrepreneurs who are so similar to the politicians. We also have enough of these incompetent managers and executives!

      Well, however. An excerpt from the mentioned publication I have provided on my side. See there under "Books"

      • Udo Dinsing

        Well, if I already tell the users my side, then the URL should also be specified.
        So, here it is: http://dg2bay.bplaced.net/
        Greeting, U. Dinsing

      • Simone Janson

        Hello Mr. Dinsing,
        thanks for the hint. You are already the second who addresses me for a book publication on the subject. You are welcome to send an excerpt to the publication, if it is not already online elsewhere. Sorry for the site thing - it's for spam protection. But you have complied.
        Regards

        • Udo Dinsing

          Hello Mrs. Janson!
          Just check back again if there is something new.
          No, I already signed the authorship contract because of the book. Probably you had misunderstood something.

          But again on the topic. I have now pretty much worked through all the craft chambers and treat the industrial branch in a "quick run". All I can say is that the numbers of graduates have reached dizzying heights. In addition there are the numbers of passed master examinations, instructor examinations and other advanced training examinations. When someone reads that, his hands clash over his head. And only in the craft. What do you think about what's going on in the industry? Alone Daimler-Benz has informed me on request, that are currently being trained nationwide in the Daimler Group through 6000 trainees. Well, let's wait and see what Thyssen-Krupp and other major companies look like.
          And then such spinners come and tell the people something about a skilled labor force. I believe that there is a lack of awareness of reality.

          In the other case, however, you will be glad to send an extract. Do not laugh at my expression, but certain people do not understand any other language.

          With frndl. Greeting, U. Dinsing

          • Simone Janson

            Hello Mr. Dinsing,
            You can also subscribe to the discussion.
            I am looking forward to reading this book and would be happy to send you an extract - also as a pre-release. As far as your figures are concerned, I do not wonder the high number of trainees in companies, but the complaints are mostly from the middle class, preferably from unknown companies from the province. I have just learned last week in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, but also in Saxony or South Tyrol. And also from young people heard: Economic region Hwilbronn-I do not know ... Surely also a question of the payment, the service car and the status that one would rather to the large enterprise wants.
            Do you have any insights?

  8. Sawensa

    Hello Mrs. Janson and everybody,
    would like to share my experience on the subject of professional deficit:

    I spent several years studying the time and cost of the course of studies in Engineering Engineering (Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Diplom FH). Although I am female (women should supposedly be promoted in the engineering professions) and the diploma with 1,7 had completed and at the time of the final 28 years was young, I was also very long afterwards job-seeking and have studied almost in vain.
    When I realized how hopeless the situation is, I was then also willing to offer my labor free of charge. So I hoped that I could at least through an 3 to 6 month internship to enter a company. This was after the study but also virtually impossible, since all companies with whom I had asked their internship places exclusively to students, which are still in the study.

    In the meantime (five years after the graduation) I do not apply at all to registered hosting positions, not least because I have never been able to work properly in this profession since the 5 years (except internships during my studies) new graduates. By good luck I had at least the opportunity to be able to work as an office assistant through a temporary work company. This is unfortunately not a matter of course for the qualification, because almost always when I applied to office jobs, then I was just this high qualification very much in the way which I do not find OK. Currently I have found a place of assistance and am glad to have got work at all.

    Best regards, Sawensa.

    • Simone Janson

      Love Sawensa,
      Thank you for the report, which makes me a little sad. It is a pity if someone describes his studies as free. I'm sure you've had some experience during that time and five years that you can use - maybe in a different profession. Please read in detail this and the linked posts about career new beginning. Which I do not want to say that an assistance center must be bad, and it can be very filling. However, if you write that you are happy to have found work at all, this indicates a greater degree of dissatisfaction. Maybe coaching can help.

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  10. Robert

    Great article! In order to counteract the demographic decline in the working population, several approaches to solutions are conceivable: the earlier entry into the labor market, the later exit from the working phase, an increase in women's employment and the influx of foreign workers.

    • Simone Janson

      Hi Robert,
      thanks for the contribution. This is exactly the point in the reportage.

  11. Dirk Steffes-do

    So, now I have also looked at the specialist reportage. The job market has something to do with the market and the market economy. From the point of view of an employer, a large number of applicants is to be welcomed (higher quality of applications with lower salary expectations). The fact that this is promoted by a (possibly also targeted) recruitment of foreign workers, but is a very logical approach. Alternatively - as at the end of the report - production could also be relocated to a lower-wage location in Southern or Eastern Europe. As a jobseeker, you can complain but not really change that.

    From my experience (which is also recognizable in the article) there is actually a professional deficit, especially in regions away from large cities and unistandancies. BMW in Munich will probably continue to find enough and also good candidates. Those who are willing to move to the province will also find a job. If he is qualified - which one can not say with every applicant (quality has been going on for years, both for students and apprentices).

    • Simone Janson

      Hello, thank you for the comment from the other viewpoint - the is here in the blog unfortunately much too little illuminated, because employers and personnel did not want to speak. This is precisely the dialogue that is missing. Thus, the interests are against each other and the fronts harden. And in the end are all sour.

      • realist

        In the province I could have started, but what if the small company is sometimes bad, or is bought and closed by a big company? With family, it is then difficult to move again. Actually, the small ones in the province would have to pay more than the big ones to take the risk. This is the big problem that firms who have skilled searchers do not have money that has the money trying to do everything in their power to get rid of the expensive professionals to increase their profits.

        • Simone Janson

          Hello Realist,
          Of course, it is a problem that small businesses in the province often offer even lower rates in addition to unattractive locations. But in some Süddeutschen Regions also have more than one company, so maybe several opportunities.

  12. Wolfgang watch

    Thank you for this report, which I think is clear, which describe the problem correctly. In addition, there was once in Germany a professional deficit in the IT area and that was the time of the changeover to the year 2000. They have also shown how the industry deals with real skills deficit. For me, the definition of a professional deficit follows:

    A shortage of skilled workers is present if the newcomer has a job opportunity.

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Mr. Clock,
      thanks for the feedback, you're probably right. By the way, our author Dirk Ohlmeier attacks the problem of definition today as well.

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  14. Marko

    Is there an initiative "We are still VDI" and how can one participate?

    I'm currently still at the VDI, but after the report I'm really full and find that you should change something urgently.

    • Young Ing

      The initiative would also interest me!

      Therefore, I deliberately terminated and explicitly stated as a reason the labor market policy of the VDI!

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Marko, unfortunately, the initiator has Burnout and can therefore no longer care. But I would like to make a contact, if desired.
      Thank you

  15. Young Ing

    Hallo,

    since I'm still a VDI member, I get the VDI messages until the end of membership! There appeared an article on the 01. Aug. "Poetry or Truth: Are Germany engineers missing?", Unfortunately the article is not readable online, but the VDI clearly lacks the recent media reports of any foundations. All facts listed in the labor market report are taken up and simply denied in a very disappointing, weak way.

    The VDI does not realize that you will shake the trust of the young engineers, especially those who work for the job, and thus harm themselves as a team with a good reputation.

    Greeting still unemployed Young Ing

    • Simone Janson

      Thanks for the hint, do you have a link to the report? Then I could go into it times.
      Regards

      • Young Ing

        Hello Mrs. Janson,

        http://www.vdi-nachrichten.com/Aus-VDI/Dichtung-Wahrheit-Fehlen-Deutschland-Ingenieure

        unfortunately the article is not publicly visible, but free test subscription goes also

        MFG
        Young Ing

    • Christian

      With regard to this article, I have written a factual letter to the editor, in which I mention my personal perception of the job market and subsequently raise the question as to why the VDI, in view of the obviously contradictory scientific statements, chooses the most employer-friendly position and appropriate lobbyism operates. This was not discussed internally at any time. And yet this attitude should be in the interest of the majority of members?

      On my request, I received the concise response that the publication of vacancies had nothing to do with the number of jobs and the number of vacancies reported by the companies to the agency for work.
      (In other words, personal / subjective perception does not matter.)

      Also a way to deal with non-line-loyal member opinions.
      (Probably considered professional under appropriate PR and coporate communications standards ...)

      The VDI obviously avoids consciously the substantive argument.
      In view of this, to prevent the continuous abuse of my membership by the VDI (... "we represent so-and-so-many-thousand engineers" ...) I have terminated my membership (so-and-so-many-thousand-minus-1 ).

      • Simone Janson

        Hello Christian,
        thank you for the hint. What would help would be that these thousands of members were leaving. I think the VDI weighs in safety or at least does so.
        After all, they have not become soggy as it is documented elsewhere, perhaps the TV program has certainly made something thoughtful. Maybe only my hope will die ...

        • Christian

          Hello Simone Janson,
          the landlord's way, as the VDI leadership here exercises autonomously on federal political influence, should in the long run have led to a larger (web 2.0-supported) membership uprising.
          The fact that this has not yet taken place certainly has to do with the still existing association reputations, which mainly stem from the standardization and policy work or the commitment of the many honorary regional and specialist group leaders. In addition, it must be assumed that, despite the media education so far, much ignorance or labor market policy disinterest prevails on the part of those with little current experience with regard to attitude research.

          Personally, the cautious reaction on the part of Ms. Nahles to the topic 'shortage of skilled workers' cautiously optimistic, as documented in said ARD reportage, makes the political weather on this topic slowly turning.

          Regardless, I believe that your open-minded, informative blog, Mrs Janson, covers the needs of those who are interested in background information and helps to bring together the attitude of the many rightly indignant - and thus constitutes an important, lasting, driving force for future correction.
          Thanks for that!

          • Simone Janson

            Hello Christian,
            Manor style is nicely expressed. We, I and the authors, are delighted that our work will please you. I also have the impression that the topic is slowly being discussed differently. When the discussion started 2009, the response of the staff was still consistently negative. Not least because of such ARD broadcasts and the book of Mr. Gaedt, the topic is now somewhat more differentiated in the scene.

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  26. Clara

    I can not agree with the analysis of Mr. Gerhard Kenk, since this program was not designed for analysis at all. If you want analysis, you will make a program about it, fill it with statistics and numbers, and let the experts of all kinds coalesce. The affected people will be heard in a maximum 5-minute single player. Certainly as icebreaker and warm-up.

    This show should in my opinion show the human aspect and that is very well done. If you had interviewed more people, then you would probably have had real tears, just like in real life, when you lose your existence and you do not get new ones. Because that is behind it, even if HartzIV prevents you from landing under the bridge. About 40 percent of current employment contracts in Germany are temporary. This increases the pressure even more. One should also not be about 45, because then one is too old, too expensive and supposedly too inflexible. The lobby of the big companies has managed to make the politicians work for themselves. And in a country that is actually a classic country of small and medium-sized businesses.

    How much of the current crisis people are facing is shown by Ireland, for example. Currently, all 6 minutes travel an Irish, 10 in an hour, 240 a day. In the last 3 years, 300.000 Irishmen have left the country. There go the boys, the well-educated. The Celtic tiger is in demand. With a nation of only 4,5 Mio you can ask yourself when, when the country is consuming it from within, because those who go overseas, ie Canada, Australia, New Zealand, will not return.

    Sincerely

    Clara

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Clara,
      I understand, of course, that the viewer can identify much better with the Spanish characters and his story than with naked figures. Still, I personally do not like this kind of concern journalism infotainment either. The emotions then very quickly obscure the view on a factual discussion with the subject. Throughout the discussion, as I have noticed in the blog here for too many years, I feel too much polemic - this may be understandable by the people concerned, but it does not help in the end.

      I think you offer the best example: Of course, you were personally affected and then upset. But then you have also actively searched for a solution to the problem instead of just hoping for help from the outside. I have the impression that this step many sufferers do not go. And in the broadcast was actually again only the problem listed, but no solution.

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  32. Dirk

    Hallo,

    that was indeed a very interesting reportage. With good arguments, it emerged that the entrepreneurs and lobby associations seemingly deliberately provoke an oversupply of professionals in order to lower the wage level. Of particular interest to me is the health service. My thoughts on the "landlord manner" of the interviewed chief physician and on the clear statements about the probably actual deficiency in medicine and care, I summarized on my blog.

    Regards

    Dirk

    • Simone Janson

      Hi Dirk,
      thank you for the reference, which is sure to interest many interested.
      I would also like to take the topic separately.

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  49. Anna

    Dear Mrs. Jansen,
    from me also many thanks for the reportage! I was amazed that I am not alone in this devil's circle.
    Must Clara enclose me - it makes a simply ill always to be rejected. I am an engineer in mechanical engineering who has chosen the subject from passion, I have simply fascinated the technique and the knowledge. Now I have finished 5 years and it went then. 1 year unemployed, after that I took the first thing I could find - a job in a desert (comparable to the Spanish gentleman from the reportage). But did not stop looking. Now I've been here for 4 years and it makes me more than sick. I am originally from abroad, but I have completed the complete studies in Germany in regular studies and have a good diploma. Know 4 languages ​​flowing, on two other I'm just out for fun. Nevertheless, I get about every month only cancellations. The most unbelievable (we could start from a fun point, which is the experience with the others) came from BMW and was "we have no suitable place for you now and for the foreseeable future."
    Like Clara, I decided to emigrate from Germany. The powerful corporations and their politics have already taken the belief in me and my calling as an engineer. Thousand of times I have come to the decision to come here: "... you would not have emigrated". At the time, the dream of a successful career was stronger and Germany has (allegedly) many opportunities, especially in the engineering sector.
    So as I said - just go here. My friend is also an engineer and also comes abroad. It would be helpful, as you have already mentioned in a comment, the tips on the countries where you can search or at least first - which one begins.
    Thank you again! I feel somewhat relieved by the truth expressed in the reportage. I am also glad to hear that some have managed to get out of this madness. I also hope for myself and wish all the others success, whatever they are up to!

    • Simone Janson

      Hi Anna,
      I am pleased to hear that the contribution helps.
      We have been collecting similar posts here for years - including the example of Karen, who went to Sweden and another colleague who went to Switzerland:
      http://berufebilder.de/2010/fachkraeftemangel-maerchen-ingenieure-karen-sandra/
      Last fall, I met someone in Canada who worked there as an engineer. In Norway I could also imagine that it is an alternative.
      But I would also be curious about foreign experience reports. To you continued success.
      Regards

  50. Clara

    Hello Mrs. Janson,

    We have seen this show in the ARD Media Library and can only confirm the core statement. The so-called specialist deficit or also called lack of engineering is a hoax. Useful for large companies, harmful to workers. We have had very similar experiences as Regina, after we became victims of outsourcing measures. We have also sent hundreds of applications and many adventurous reasons. For example: "No, if you have been department head, you can not possibly work as a project manager. They are, on the one hand, too expensive and, on the other hand, they are overqualified and, no, they can not work for a lower salary at us. "

    This was crowned by job advertisements, which explicitly excluded any applicant who applied outside of a circle of 30 km to the location of the company. So the nasty rumor of employers and politicians faded, that one had to be mobile only in order to get an adequate job. The qualification did not matter. In the east of Germany, you were looking for engineers, older and with a lot of professional experience and, of course, willing to work for 1700 Euro gross.

    After all, we have simply left the country and have now been living abroad for more than 5 years, sometimes outside Europe, and are all in bread and butter and are no longer worried about the German system. We are not interested anymore. Our children are multilingual and are currently heading towards their Master's degrees (also Engineering :-)). You will be in the comfort of being able to choose the country of your dreams more or less. Germany? No thanks, no topic. Happy to visit but with return ticket in your pocket.

    This jump has put a huge pressure on us. We are looking forward to our future in a very relaxed way. The times of the goose egg are over.

    I wish all of you luck and success in this vicious circle. The treadmill job search gnaws on self-confidence. Add to this the success mantra from the media: We are the best, the greatest, the greatest ... .etc. You feel like you're the only idiot under the sun who just does not get it baked. It is not true. It is a perfidious game of profit maximization and with the eternally valid "divide and rule" the politicians of all stripes play along. The lobby whisperers have secured their rights to their ears and actions. No, this is not a conspiracy theory, but one hand washes the other here.

    I wish you continued success with your blog. A great thing!

    Sincerely

    Clara

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Clara,
      Thank you for this encouraging report. The whole discussion was also triggered by a young lady, who then emigrated to Sweden at the end. Maybe you have some tips for people willing to emigrate - eg one or more countries that you can recommend? Thank you!

      • Clara

        Hello Mrs. Janson,

        This is not so easy with a few sentences.
        Actually, I had been planning to write a blog about emigration in general. So far I had always pushed it, also because I am quite busy. But I thought I could at least start with it and I've already written the first article. In the first place, there are general clues about emigration and about preparatory thoughts, which should be done by everyone. It is not done with suitcases alone, especially when one has a family.

        At www.clarasnotizblog.wordpress.com, I will write a little bit about this and will be happy to answer questions that I can answer. To emigrate one can not guess, everyone must find his way. In addition, emigration is not comparable with the emigration of 1872 today. At that time they were sailing over the sea for weeks, breaking all the bridges behind them. This is not the case today. But now there are other stumbling blocks and I can point this out.

        • Simone Janson

          Thanks for the hint. I will refer again separately to the project.

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  52. Johanna

    Today I saw the documentation. I also graduated from my studies and had problems finding a job. Now I have a job and am very dissatisfied with regard to training and safety. I wonder what happens to the many graduates who are now working? Not all can have top grades. What happens to the mediocre and rather poor graduates?
    How to get a job experience when internships are not viewed as such and if you do not get the chance to build them up? Why does politics not take responsibility for the next generation? Even friends and acquaintances of mine have this problem. We all feel helpless, fooled and left alone. We would like to do something against this situation, but we do not know what.
    I just terminated my membership at the VDI and referred to the documentation. This is only a drop on the hot stone, but still a small step.

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Johanna,
      thanks for the contribution. There was, as you might have read here in the blog, the idea with the concentrated mass exits from the VDI, which could already be effective, unfortunately the action then went sicken.

  53. Mark

    An engineering service provider headquartered in Hamburg and working on many projects for Airbus. The applicant has two years of professional experience in aviation (construction), but not in the airbus field. The salary requirement is 40000 Euro per year; the staff is probably overpriced, the boss has to decide. It could be a lot of training (software, otherwise you can not work with it); Half of the training time is credited to the Minutes Account. Since four weeks of training in the CAD area could be quite realistic, the employee would have quickly built up 60-80 minutes. "We do this so that the employees can be more motivated in the training. Because in the past, the CAD coach had already played cards with the students "(!!!!!!), the staff said. Last but not least, he also wanted to receive funding from the employment agency, because the applicant was temporarily without employment. All this ran under the tenor: "We must also incorporate you". This is the situation on the labor market. Engineers are treated like the last muck. Temporary work and works contracts of this kind are prohibited. They are used only for wage dumping or to get rid of the employees quickly. And this is done with professional groups, which you need to work with.

    • Simone Janson

      Thank you for your contribution.

  54. Ray

    I also saw the documentary, and I must say that I was very irritated. This actually means that a conspiracy theory in this case would not be so wrong. And actually some more extensive searches would be very useful.

    • Simone Janson

      Well, conspiracy theory I find something too far thought, it is rather a big ignorance with all those who use individual interest groups for themselves - as Mr. Gaedt also in the program says.

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  56. projektwerk

    We also think that it can not be a solution to attract people from outside. It has to move, change a bit. So, no longer accept that it takes so long to fill a job and in the meantime projects and thus can not realize sales - but simply use the hybrid model: Fixed employees as core + Freelancer for temporary use at a top level. For more information, please take a look at our whitepaper:
    Yours sincerely, from Hamburg!

    • Simone Janson

      That would then be the model, which eg IBM since the 80ern tried unsuccessfully tried ... because then for example, the good specialists look for other possibilities and the freelancer pool only the less good remain.

  57. Ab50

    I also have to thank you for this reportage. For a few years I try to change my career, but despite a professionally created application, a lot of training, certificates, many years of professional experience in the project business and the diverse know-how, it is now ALSO AND FOR ALL for real "IT professionals" (Dipl. Computer scientist) as well as impossible to find yet another job.
    This may also be due to the fact that as an employer, employees from an age of 50 years in the German industry would only want to "get rid of", but also that there are simply no more jobs for adequately paid specialists. I see it in my own company - only qualified employees are sought, if at all, who have the lowest possible salary requirements.
    Therefore, for me the "Mar 'of the shortage of skilled workers" is only a tried and tested means for wage and salary dumping.
    In the case of a (real) shortage, for example, salaries would also rise.
    In IT, however, the salary has been declining in real terms for years, only executives still get an increase> 1% per year, the rest can be happy if he is still allowed to work.

    But I know then but a place in which the expert deficit must be substantial: In Berlin in the Bundestag ...

    • Simone Janson

      ;-) funny, the comparison with the Bundestag. Just take a look at the application tips starting with 45 - maybe you will find a solution.

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  59. Simone Janson

    Dear Regina,
    thanks for the contribution. I am glad that I could contribute something and I am sorry that I could not help anymore. Perhaps a hint: you could think about possible alternatives to Hartz IV.
    Here are some tips for job search from 45
    And here you will find numerous tips on career change
    Good luck

  60. Regina

    Hello Mrs. Janson,

    On Monday, my husband and I have seen and heard you in the work reportage - The fairy tale of a shortage of skilled workers. It does us so well to finally hear people who have the same opinion as us.

    My husband (Dipl.Ing. (FH)) became unemployed for the first time in his life due to a factory closure (NSN Bruchsal) after 20 years. As naive as we were then, we thought that he would get a new job quickly, since there was an acute professional deficit in Germany. But after 100 applications and not a single interview, we already had the guess that this is all a fairy tale. However, we found no one to support our thesis. And finally the report in the ARD, which was very well done and also shocked us. That is the VDI of the instigators, and the policy and the employment agency has pulled into the boat, has made us speechless. Too bad the report was sent so late and probably only a fraction of the nation has seen it. I wish even more people like you, who are strong against this giant lie, which is still widely spread in the media. After this TV broadcast we unfortunately see very black, which concerns the job search of my husband. If one imagines, my husband has studied and worked for many years to be placed with 55 years on the sidelines and probably Harz4 must refer. But politics wants people to work until 67 years. What a scorn !!
    I wish you all the best for your future and thank you very much for your words.

    Mit freundlichen Grüßen

    Regina

  61. Alhambra

    The link for all who missed it

    http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Reportage-Dokumentation/Der-Arbeitsmarktreport-das-Märchen-vom/Das-Erste/Video?documentId=22510396&bcastId=799280

    • Simone Janson

      Thank you!

      • Harry Peters

        Class report. Is precisely the core: wage-salary dumping to the detriment of the people at home and abroad.
        Gloriously or naively dumb our mutti, our Ursula our lord, the wise.
        For me, the facts have been crystal clear for a few years, because even experienced. The article shows: This is the way to the slavery, if the lies are not unmasked. Please show the show again on Sundays around 20.15 in the first.

        Dipl.-Ing. E. Engineering
        mfg Harry Peters,
        Reichenwalde, Brandenburg,

        • Simone Janson

          Hello Mr. Peters,
          I also found it a bit unfortunate that it came so late. Perhaps you can tell at least more people about this Blóg who offers a forum for exchange.

  62. Gerhard

    What I really can not understand is that Mr. Gotzeina in Eisfeld can not find anyone who can operate a CNC machine ... Perhaps with a job offer on a Friday evening to the A4 if (ten-) thousands of weekend commuters from Bavaria and BaWü to Thuringia and Saxony go home. This can be lured with a shorter work lane (even if you cut the salary) ... or is that too naive?

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Gerhard,
      perhaps the smear in the salary actually is the crack point?

      • Alhambra

        The salary I think rather not.

        You do not deserve twice in Bavaria or BaWü, and if you take into account higher rents and the cost of the "weekend commute", it may not be the reason.

        I wonder where Mr. Gotzeina posts the posts? With the "experts" from the jobcenter, with temporary workers? Perhaps it would be a possibility simply to admit one of the "workmen" who want to work with Him a chance. If you can get people from Spain, why not a Thuringian? Sometimes you can not see the forest in front of the trees ... Well, he wants to open a branch in Murcia now, as an honorable businessman he will already know what he is doing and surely find a solution to the problem.

        • Simone Janson

          That's what Mr. Gaedt describes in his book, even more differentiated than it came out in such a short review: The matching between companies and professionals just is not right. And sometimes some companies are just themselves to blame. Here is the contribution of Mr Ohlmeier

        • The skilled laborer deficit

          Yes, you do not earn double in BaWu / Bavaria, but often up to 75% more, especially if you calculate your effective hourly wage. Most commuters should / had had to orientate themselves long ago in the south, since now bringsts nix, the enterprise acquisitions in its company to give up and at zero close to the home. Many are eh already older and think mainly of the pension and since every cent counts extra for a one-sided claim.
          The East is itself to blame for the "professional deficit". There are actually almost only companies that pay very low wages. In the rent you can save there, with the remaining life costs no and for the pension supply looks very bad. One has to keep in mind that for the pension in 2030 35 you have earned for a long time at least 2500 Euro gross per month, so that you are just above the basic security of today 7XY Euro, affectionately also called Age-Hartz IV. In the east almost all of them would fall.

          • Simone Janson

            Thanks for the explanation!

  63. svenja

    I have had to learn on my own, what it means to find no suitable job and that despite well-studied studies. Until now I have always thought, where are the companies, if supposedly the professional defenses is so large. My "problem" is that I do not have a professional experience and the companies only give a career with a job certificate. The politicians act as if the defendant's deficit really exists. They actually get what happens at the base. Ms Merkel, for example, is concerned only with foreign policy; domestic politics do not take place at all.

    • Simone Janson

      Hello Svenja,
      thank you for the experience report. This is precisely what is addressed in the film: That the companies are accustomed to be able to access a large pool of applicants - and therefore can not comprehend absolutely suitable applications as a defect.

  64. Holger Kohl

    There has been very much shown in the show.
    I myself am an engineer in the field of media technology and have not found a job for a long time. Despite very good education studies, scholarship and qualified internships.
    At the time, as for specialists from abroad another annual salary of 66.000 Euro was given by the government, I was offered for under 32.000 Euro and that was the rule.

    There was nothing left for me but to make myself independent, though that was never my plan.

    The state deliberately pushes the prices of its own offspring downwards - an abuse of responsibility.
    Thus the state loses more knowledge and qualification abroad than through industrial pioneering.

    • Simone Janson

      Thank you for your story. The step into self-employment does not have to be the worst thing. Very nice I think your comparison with industrial espionage - in the age of Snowden ...

  65. wolf hardt

    RT @HAMBURGonline: The Labor Market Report - The Fairytale of the Experts' Challenge.

  66. HAMBURG ONLINE ®

    The Labor Market Report - The Fairy Tale of the Experts ".

  67. Ray [Blu-Ray]

    O-tone of the book: # Skilled labor shortage is often homemade #First

  68. Antje Rabenalt

    RT @Verena_Breuer: "@DerLarsHahn: Myth Skilled shortage in the ARD tonight with @ SimoneJanson and @younect"

  69. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @Verena_Breuer: "@DerLarsHahn: Myth Skilled shortage in the ARD tonight with @ SimoneJanson and @younect"

  70. Verena Breuer

    "@DerLarsHahn: Myth Skills shortage in the ARD tonight with @SimoneJanson and @younect"

  71. Katharina Daniels

    RT @SocialLook100: Tonight #ARD: The fairy tale of the expert martial - ... via @SimoneJanson

  72. Alpina HR Services

    RT @SocialLook100: Tonight #ARD: The fairy tale of the expert martial - ... via @SimoneJanson

  73. Manuela Krach

    RT @SocialLook100: Tonight #ARD: The fairy tale of the expert martial - ... via @SimoneJanson

  74. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @SocialLook100: Tonight #ARD: The fairy tale of the expert martial - ... via @SimoneJanson

  75. Petra-Alexandra Buhl

    RT @younect: Today ARD + book by Martin Gaedt "Mythos Fachkräfttemangel". O-Ton of the book: Fachkräftstemangel is often made home. http: //t....

  76. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @matsblog: Also as program tip: @SimoneJanson tonight around 22: 45 clock in the #ARD: The fairy tale of the # Trademark defiance
    - Exciting contribution...

  77. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    Today ARD + book by Martin Gaedt "Myth Skilled Shortage". Actuality of the book: Skills shortage is often homemade.

  78. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @DerLarsHahn: Myths Experts in the ARD tonight with @SimoneJanson and @younect

  79. Lars Hahn

    Myths Armed Forces in the ARD tonight with @SimoneJanson and @younect

  80. Lars Hahn

    The ARD report also brings the ARD report to its media library, or ?!

  81. LVQ.de

    RT @matsblog: Program Tip: @SimoneJanson tonight around 22: 45 clock in the #ARD: The fairy tale of the # Tradesman defiance

  82. Mats

    In addition as program tip: @SimoneJanson tonight around 22: 45 clock in the #ARD: The fairy tale of the # Trademark defiance

  83. Inge VK

    Tonight #ARD: The fairy tale of skill shortages - ... via @SimoneJanson

  84. Inge VK

    Tonight #ARD: The fairy tale of skill shortages - ... via @SimoneJanson

  85. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @SimoneJanson: Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of a shortage of skilled workers -

  86. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @SimoneJanson: Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of a shortage of skilled workers -

  87. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @jobcollege: Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of the shortage of skilled workers: In March I was ... # B ...

  88. Martin Gaedt YOUNECT

    RT @jobcollege: Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of the shortage of skilled workers: In March I was ... # B ...

  89. Tilo Matthias

    RT @SimoneJanson: Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of a shortage of skilled workers -

  90. Competencepartner

    Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of the shortage of skilled workers: In March, I became the # # Profession #Education

  91. Karsten Wenzlaff

    great - I'm curious!

  92. dib ev

    RT @SimoneJanson: Tonight Simone Janson in the ARD: The fairy tale of a shortage of skilled workers -

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